La Grave Backcountry Skiing

Fitness level
Tech level
Number of guiding days
5
Guiding ratio
1:6

Our La Grave off piste ski holiday offers a great week of backcountry skiing in the legendary freeride mecca of La Grave. Some people wonder why anyone would want to go on a ski holiday to a place with just one long lift, no pistes at all and a huge mountain side covered in open powder fields, chutes and trees. Sounds good to us!

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We had a fantastic time with Dave. He was a great match for our objectives, risk tolerance, energy levels, personalities and overall things we wanted to do. We really had a very special trip which we always will remember, and Dave must get a lot of credit for that. I’m really glad we chose La Grave so we had a small town alps feel, coupled with Alpine Guides experience of operating in this area. Hotel was great… it seems to be the best one in town, it would have been nice to have a bit more variety for the vegetarian, but the food was very good. Organization and pre- trip communication was spot on. Everything went very smoothly. Now we just need to figure out a way to pay another visit!

Rob Stone

Thank you for another super, brill holiday. I thoroughly enjoyed it once again.
Hopefully Norway next year… See you next year if not before!

Philippa Liles
My first trip with Alpine Guides and I had a great time! Graham put together a good program with a variety of things to do that were well suited to the weather and snow.  It may not have looked like it at the time, but I enjoyed the mini day tour in ‘Scottish conditions’ on the last day!  The Hotel Edelweiss is great – comfortable, excellent food, terrific wine and I was impressed with small touches like introducing us to other members of our party who’d also arrived early so we could get to know each other.
Sue Rowlands
Thank you – it was an excellent week and Graham was a superb guide;  great fun to be with both on and off piste and always supportive and attentive to your needs. I will definitely use your company again and be effusive about you to my ski friends!!
Neil Jones

The trip was very good! Learnt a lot about touring and how to improve my skiing and enjoyed it very much. The group were great and everyone enjoyed the whole experience. The accommodation was brilliant and both Robin, Marlon and staff were great entertainment and we are looking to visit again in the summer with our daughter. Again many thanks and I shall keep looking at your web site for courses.

Nikolas Larkby

Now that we’ve returned to the states and caught up at work I wanted to drop you a line saying we had another great trip this year. I don’t remember if I mentioned last year, but what really stands out is the ability to go to different areas depending on snow and weather conditions and Neil’s knowledge of those different areas. One day we skied Serre Chevalier in the morning and La Grave in the afternoon. Another day we skied La Grave in the morning and Chazalet in the afternoon. We also had a chance to skin & ski in Queyras on a beautiful day.

Bill Willen

Trip overview

Our La Grave off piste ski holiday offers a great week of backcountry skiing in the legendary freeride mecca of La Grave. Some people wonder why anyone would want to go on a ski holiday to a place with just one long lift, no pistes at all and a huge mountain side covered in open powder fields, chutes and trees. Sounds good to us!

This is a real backcountry ski week. Using uplift and ski touring kit, we ski the best runs in La Grave, as well as making frequent visits to nearby resorts in order to catch the best possible snow. Skinning and boot tracking to access untracked terrain are a regular feature of these weeks – we do far more than just off piste skiing using the lifts!

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Suitability

This is an intermediate to advanced level trip. To take part you should be at Fitness Level 2 and Tech Level 3-4 depending on the group (see our Fitness/Experience guidelines below). Touring experience useful but not essential. Type of ascent: 90% uplift and 10% skinning.


Guiding ratio

One UIAGM guide skiing with 6 clients.


Included in price

  • 5 days of guiding
  • All guides expenses
  • 6 nights accommodation in La Grave, including breakfast and evening meals.
  • Transport during the course.

Excluded from price (see factsheet for extra cost estimates)

  • Uplift
  • Lunches and drinks
  • Travel to resort
  • Insurance
  • Equipment hire

Hotel

Our course base and meeting point is the friendly and comfortable Hotel Edelweiss in La Grave, run by British/Dutch couple Robin and Marlon. The Edelweiss is an excellent base with very good food (and a huge wine list!), drying room, wifi access, a sauna/spa, and a cosy bar – a great place to relax after a day in the mountains. Situated in the centre of the village, it’s close to bakeries, supermarkets and a couple of equipment shops, and within walking distance of the lift. Rooms are provided on a twin (or occasionally triple) sharing basis, but if you wish to book a single room please let us know at the time of booking and we will confirm availability. Hotel details can be found on our Accommodation page.


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This trip is protected by ABTOT – Alpine Guides Ltd, Membership Number 5394.  For further information, please visit our Financial Protection page.

Detailed Itinerary

Sunday

You should arrange outward travel on Sunday, arriving by 6-7pm latest in time for the briefing at your accommodation. Your guide will run through kit checks and safety routines, as well as hand out any rental equipment, before going on to discuss the current weather and mountain conditions and how these affect our plans. If you’ve any questions or last minute requests, then this is the ideal time to bring them up.


Monday

Shakedown day – off piste skiing at La Grave. On our first day we enjoy some good quality off piste skiing, mixed with skills refreshement and training – eg transceiver practice, use of skins and touring kit etc as appropriate. For part of the day, this is likely to involve skinning away from the regular off piste runs, or heading out onto the glacier.

grave-vallonsVallons de la Meije

The Vallons de la Meije is a huge off piste playground, offering numerous lines of descent in the shadow of the north face of La Meije – because the valley is so deep, the bowls stay in shade for a lot of the winter, meaning e snow stays light and powdery for a very long time.

The upper slopes leading down from the top of the lift are often wide open powder bowls, with great varied pitches.

It’s possible to lap this higher section of the mountain by returning to the mid stations along a series of different traverse lines, both above and below the tree line – but each run in it’s own right is a major descent.

Further down the mountain, if conditions are good, there is the option to ski right down to the village – this gives a massive run of nearly 2000m down to a bridge across the river, from where a short, always exhausting hike leads back to the lift station.


Tuesday to Friday

Backcountry skiing, big descents and day tours in and around La Grave. Typical runs and other resorts visited include:

grave-glacierGlacier de la Girose

Taking the cat shuttle and button lift to the top of the mountain gives access to the huge open slopes of the Glacier de la Girose.

This section of the mountain opens a little later than the rest of la Grave – ie when there is enough snow to fill in most of the crevasses on the glacier…

Up on the glacier it’s all about space and the freedom to choose your line and really let rip. If high speed GS turns are your thing – then this is the place to do it!

Equally well, If you want to enjoy lovely long pitches of short linked powder turns, then this is a great spot to do it too – each to their own style, there’s plenty of room to play.


grave-treesTree Skiing

When it snows, the tree skiing at La Grave is the stuff of legend.

The lift frequently stays open during storms, giving access to the extensive forests of the middle and lower mountain.

When the snow comes from the south however, the powder is usually better on the other side of the Col du Lauteret at the head of the valley.

Luckily, there are plenty of other great tree skiing venues over there as well – these include Serre Chevalier, Montgenevre and numerous day touring venues around Briancon – all of which are accesible from La Grave in a day.

The key is to understand the local micro climates and know where the best snow is likely to be each day, especially after any periods of active weather, when the conditions change rapidly.


grave-couloirsCouloir Skiing

La Grave is a great spot for skiing couloirs and steeper terrain – these start with shorter, less serious outings like the Delite and Banane couloirs above the Lac de Puy Vachier – right through to extreme descents involving ropes and abseils.

One of our favourite outings is to ski the 800m Couloir de la Lauze down into the Vallon de la Selle, then ski out down the valley to the tiny village of St Christophe, at the edge of the Ecrins National Park.

After lunch at the local café, the patron then organises transport back down to Venosc, where a gondola lift leads back up to Les Deux Alpes.

This is full day outing – it’s possible from La Grave if you push the pace and don’t spent too long over lunch, but it’s best done by driving to Les Deux Alpes just down the road in the morning and the starting and finishing from there instead.


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Les Chazalets

Les Chazalets is a tiny ski station tucked away on the hillside over looking La Grave.

Offering great views across to La Meije, plenty of good off piste terrain and a nice sunny terrace for lunch – it’s an attractive spot to spend a morning, or a whole day if including a ski tour into part of the day

The ski area lies in a valley, with lifts up on to the ridges on either side.

The slopes here are open and easily accesible, with the option to don skins and do a lift assisted day tour up one of the ridges in order to find the best snow.

The conditions here are often very different from La Grave, despite them being so close, as the topography and wind patterns on the opposite sides of the valley are frequently very different.


grave-puystvincentPuy St Vincent

Puy St Vincent is a brilliant freeriding spot, just south of Briancon.

It’s a small family resort with very few off piste skiers – but loads of excellent off piste terrain, both off the lifts and accessed via boot tracking and skinning.

The classic big descent is off the Col du Bal – skiing this involves a 10 minute boot track from the top of the lifts, to reach the summit of the Crete de la Pendine. From here, it’s possible to ski 800m along the ridge (via some exciting narrow sections…) to reach the col itself.

Now all that remains is the huge north facing powder slope that leads back down to the resort!

Alternatively, a 500m skin up the far side of the valley, gives another great decent in a wild setting – looking out across the valley to Mont Brison and the Ailefroide towering on the horizon to the west at the head of the valley.


grave-queyrasQueyras Day Tours

The Queyras Regional Park lies southeast of Briancon, within an hours drive of La Grave.

The area is well known for it’s excellent early season powder touring, offering great tree skiing in lovely open larch forests.

Numerous excellent day tours are available throughout the region – usually skinning direct from the road up to a lovely lunchtime viewpoint, before enjoying a sublime descent back down through the woods, often via a different route to enjoy a circular tour.

Depending on conditions, several different valleys are accessible in this region within an hour or so of La Grave, making day visits to the area a regular feature of our backcountry weeks.

Typical ascents for day tours in the area are 800-1200m of skinning, depending on the itinerary chosen – though shorter and longer options are always possible.


grave-lauteretCol du Lauteret

The Col du Lauteret is a great spot for touring, with both full and half day outings on all sides. On a number of them, it’s possible to split cars or do drop offs and pick ups – which allows for bigger descents.

Because the col is so accessible, it’s possible to do a morning’s touring, then have lunch at La Grave or Les Chazalets and finish off with an afternoon’s off piste skiing.

In the evening, the col is also a place our guides often train for ski mountaineering races after work.

We’ve been guiding in La Grave for years, so the above is just a small sample of the areas that we regularly visit – depending on snow conditions, we may also visit nearby resorts such as Alpe D’Huez, Les Deux Alpes, Serre Chevalier and Montgenevre, or excellent powder touring venues such as Val Claree, Arvieux and Cervieres – all of which are within an hours drive of La Grave.


Saturday

Return travel should be arranged on Saturday morning, after your final nights accommodation.

Location and Travel

Your course base is La Grave on the northern edge of the Ecrins National Park. This tiny village sits amongst spectacular scenery below the north face of La Meije and is built around the mountain road between Grenoble and Briancon to the east.


Arrival

The most common way to reach La Grave is to fly to either Lyon St Exupery airport on a Saturday/Sunday or Grenoble Isere Airport on a Saturday and then take a transfer bus from the airport to La Grave.


Flights and transfers

  • Fly to Lyon: https://www.skyscanner.net/
  • 3 buses run each Saturday to La Grave, leaving the airport mid morning, mid afternoon and tea time and 2 run each Sunday leaving mid morning and tea time Visit the Linkbus website: https://www.linkbus-alps.com/en/ to download timetables and buy tickets.
  • Return buses back to Lyon airport leave La Grave on Saturday (6.30, 9.30, 12.30 – 2018/19 times: awaiting 19/20 timetables)
  • For travel on other days of the week it’s possible to get a train from Lyon airport to Grenoble, then a bus to La Grave – but times are restricted.
  • Fly to Grenoble:
  • There are 2 direct transfer buses to la Grave each Saturday, leaving the airport at lunchtime and teatime, but non on Sunday – book tickets on the Linkbus website.
  • Two Saturday return buses run from La Grave back to Grenoble airport (06.30 and 11.15 – 2018/19 times: awaiting 19/20 timetables)
  • For Sunday flights, it’s possible to get a Bensbus – https://www.bensbus.co.uk/ – transfer to Lac du Chambon, then arrange a taxi pick up with Taxi de la Meije – http://www.taxidelameije.com/home/ (tel: +33 679 53 45 67)
  • For travelling on other days of the week it’s possible to get a bus into Grenoble, then another one on to La Grave – but these are also time restricted.
  • Fly to Geneva.
  • Bus from Geneva Airport to Grenoble GR (6 buses a day, travel time ~2hrs): www.aerocar.fr
  • Bus from Grenoble GR to La Grave.

Alternatively, hire a car from any airport – driving times to La Grave are 1.45hrs from Grenoble airport, 2.30hrs from Lyon airport and 3 hours from Geneva airport.  NB you must hire a car with winter tyres or snow chains – as you will be crossing high mountain passes in winter, where special equipment is compulsory.


Other travel options

  • Driving from the UK, take the ferry or Eurotunnel to Calais/Dunkerque, then 10-12 hours driving on the French Autoroutes (budget approx 90 Euros each way in tolls).
  • Euroline coach: www.eurolines.co.uk/en
  • Eurostar train from the UK to Lyon, then onward train/bus as above: www.eurostar.com/uk-en

Further information and travel links can be found on our Travel Planning page.

Fitness and Experience

To enjoy this trip you should be comfortable operating at Fitness Level 2/3, and Ski Tech Level 3:

Fitness Level 2
You do 2-3 hours cv training/sport per week. At this level you should be happy doing either a 3-4 hr hillwalk, cycling 30 miles or mountain biking 2-3 hours without being exhausted. On foot: you should be able to walk from Ogwen Cottage in North Wales up Glyder Fach – Glyder Fawr – Y Garn – Ogwen in ~5hrs. Or in the Lake District Langdale – Bowfell – Esk Pike – Angle Tarn – Langdale in ~ 6hrs. On skis: you are capable of off piste skiing all day or doing a couple of hours skinning with out finishing up exhausted – ie you can do this for a number of days without taking a rest day.

Fitness Level 3
You do 3-4 hours cv training/sport per week. At this level you are happy doing a 5-6 hr hillwalk, 50ml cycle or 3-4hr mountain bike ride without being totally exhausted. If you are into challenges – then the thought of doing a road sportive, or training to do a 1/2 (or maybe even a full) marathon, wouldn’t seem too ridiculous. On foot: you should be able to do the full Langdale Horseshoe: Langdale – Pike of Stickle – Angle Tarn – Bow Fell – Crinkle Crags – Pike of Blisco – Langdale in a day without finishing up exhausted. On skis: you can skin uphill at 300m/hr for 3-4 hrs a day (ie 8-1200m of ascent each day)


Tech Level 3
Confirmed Off Piste Skier. You can put down a reasonable set of tracks in powder, but difficult snow types – eg heavy wet snow, crusts, poor visibility or 40dg slopes – can all cause problems (though you can cope with them safely, if not elegantly!) *Equivalent to Ski Club of GB Off Piste Level: Purple – Advanced*
Likely to say: ‘I’d like to handle difficult snow/steep slopes more confidently in better style’
Our Advice: Off piste coaching still useful. Intermediate off piste weeks are at your level too. If you want to get into ski touring, try a touring course or intro level ski tour. If you’re an established ski mountaineer, then intermediate level tours are generally suitable.

To view all of our Ski Fitness Levels and Off Piste Technical Levels, please visit our Ski Ability page.

If you need to top up your fitness for this trip, please see our Ski Touring Training Advice page.

Equipment

Day Touring/BC Ski Course Equipment List

Just remember, every extra kilo on your back knocks 10% off your enjoyment on the descents – so try and keep the weight down!

Technical Clothing

  • Waterproof Jacket – preferably lightweight and breathable
  • Overtrousers/ski pants – preferably with side zips
  • Fleece mid layer or equivalent
  • Spare fleece or lightweight insulated duvet jacket
  • Socks – specialist ski socks or a warm loop lined pair of mountain socks
  • Wicking thermal top – not cotton please…
  • Thermal leggings or ski pants
  • Thin inner gloves
  • Warm ski gloves or mittens, if you suffer from cold hands
  • Warm hat

Personal Items

  • Water container – at least 1 litre
  • Personal medications and blister kit – regular meds, zinc oxide tape, compeed and painkillers etc
  • Ski goggles
  • Sun glasses – CE rated 3 or 4 with side protection
  • Sun and lip cream – factor 30+
  • Wallet, passport and insurance docs

Technical Equipment

  • Rucsac 25/35l – try and avoid ones covered in too many features, just ski and ice axe attachments required
  • Freeride boots or ski mountaineering boots – check detailed factsheet kit list for preferred boots
  • Skis with touring bindings – check detailed factsheet kit list for preferred skis and bindings
  • Velcro ski strap – to keep skis together on your rucksack if we need to carry them
  • Ski poles – with good size 5cm+ baskets (telescopic poles are not needed)
  • Climbing skins – they come with the skis if you hire your kit
  • Harscheisen (ski crampons) – they come with the skis if you hire your kit
  • Metal snow shovel – must be a full metal shovel (plastic blades don’t work in real avalanche debris!)
  • Avalanche probe
  • Avalanche transceiver – must be a modern digital model (older analogue models are now obsolete)
  • Harness, with 120cm sling and locking karabiner
  • Crampons – bring them if you have them
  • Ice Axe – bring if you have one
  • Ski helmet – a lightweight helmet is recommended for off piste skiing

Your guide will have all other safety kit, first aid and survival equipment.


Recommendations and Advice
Visit the Knowledge Base section of our website, where we publish an annual review of the years best new skis, boots and touring equipment, plus a range of other interesting tips and recommendations. If you can’t find what you’re looking for, please get in touch!

Purchasing Equipment
Backcountry UK in Ilkley offer an excellent ski boot fitting service, one of the best ranges of ski mountaineering equipment in the UK and top notch advice.

Hiring Equipment
Please visit our Equipment Hire page for recommended hire shops in your resort, and Alpine Guides hire equipment price list.


Insurance

For this trip you must have specialist travel insurance providing medical, emergency search/rescue and repatriation cover for the following activities: off piste skiing and ski touring in glaciated areas requiring the use of ropes, up to 5000m altitude. We also strongly recommend that you purchase cancellation cover, in case you’re unable to attend your trip due to personal circumstances or injury.

Please arrange your insurance as soon as your trip is confirmed to run.


Insurance for UK residents

British Mountaineering Council. The gold standard in insurance for UK residents. Very competitive single trip or annual cover for all climbing activities. Use this link to book your BMC insurance.

European Health Insurance Card (EHIC). This gives you reciprocal health care in European countries. You can apply for an EHIC card online here or from most Post Offices. You need an EHIC in addition to your travel insurance.


European residents (non-UK)
Austrian Alpine Club. Available to all European residents. AAC insurance is cheap and works ok for minor accidents and rescues, but is not as comprehensive as many other insurance providers. The medical cover included would not be enough for complex treatment or a prolonged stay in hospital. It also doesn’t include cancellation cover. If you choose to use AAC we recommend you take out extra medical cover with another provider, to ‘top up’ the AAC medical limit, as well as a separate cancellation policy.


USA residents

Travelex. For US citizens – a range of policies with comprehensive cover.


For any nationality

Global Rescue. Cover offered to all nationalities via a combination of GR membership and their separate insurance policy.


If you choose an alternative provider, or if there is any doubt about the scope of your chosen policy we recommend that you send your insurer the link to the relevant Alpine Guides trip webpage, and ask them if cover extends to those activities and has the required components (search/rescue, medical, repatriation and cancellation). It’s worth mentioning that rescue and medical expenses in Switzerland can be significantly more expensive than in other countries, so a decent level of cover is required for Swiss tours.

We recommend that you send us your insurance details before the trip commences, and they must be brought to the course briefing at the start of your trip. However, we cannot check the detail of every individual policy, and it is your own responsibility to ensure you are adequately insured.

FAQ's

What happens to my deposit if I book a trip, but it isn’t confirmed to run due to insufficient bookings?

You may transfer your booking to different dates, a different course, or choose a full refund.

See our terms and conditions


What happens if the weather or snow conditions are poor, or the avalanche risk is high?

We will make every effort to stick to the itinerary, but sometimes its necessary to change plans and ski in a neighbouring area or even further afield. Many of our itineraries are designed with flexibility in mind, and it’s usually possible to ski in most conditions with some careful alternative planning.

Keeping the ball rolling - Val Claree


Does Alpine Guides ski with customers from overseas, including the USA and Canada?

Yes!

See our tips for overseas customers


Who goes on our trips?

We climb and ski with a broad range of ages and experience levels, and a large number of our customers come back year after year. We’ve guided 10 year old Ollie up the Old Man of Hoy in Scotland – now the youngest person to climb it. And 70 year old David has climbed the Matterhorn with us, as well as out-skiing people half his age!

The Matterhorn at 70 yrs young


How do I book a ski trip?

For scheduled ski trips it’s easy to book online, directly from your course page. For hire a guide/bespoke courses please get in touch for a quote.

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Is there an age limit on any of our ski trips?

Under 18’s must be accompanied by a parent/legal guardian. There is no upper age limit, but please get in touch to discuss suitability if you are concerned about your age, with regard to fitness and pace.

See our fitness and training article


How do I rent ski equipment?

You can rent certain items of specialist equipment from us, and the rest can usually be hired in resort.

Ski equipment rental info


What happens if I need to cancel my course?

If you wish to cancel you must notify us in writing, where upon the following charges will be applied from the date we receive your notice of cancellation:

  • More than 8 weeks (56 days) before start date – loss of deposit.
  • Between 4 and 8 weeks (28-56 days) before start date – 50% of course fee or loss of deposit, whichever amount is greater.
  • Less than 4 weeks (28 days) before start date – full course fee.

See our terms and conditions


Can I book a single room on my ski trip?

Yes – this can be done during the online booking process. Please add the single room option to your order, and we will confirm availability asap.

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